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TOPIC: Staples vs Cleats

Staples vs Cleats 07 Jul 2011 08:19 #1595

My installers use fasteners of their choice. Most of them staples using Stanley Bostitch MIII. I know that some of my competitors only use staples or only cleats. Some even use only specific brands like Primatech or Powernail. Our market has a lot of choices lately with many fasteners originating from overseas.
I would love to hear your comments.

Staples vs Cleats 09 Jul 2011 01:38 #1610

I switched to using just cleats after getting tired of staples bending and after I read an article stating that over time cleats have better holding power. I use Powernail since they are made in the USA.
Joshua Crossman
www.ptlhardwoodfloors.com

Staples vs Cleats 09 Jul 2011 12:47 #1613

We also use 18 guage cleats seem to hold better and with exotics pretty much only recommended by mfg. Charles Peterson summed it up pretty well liking a 1/2" staple to using a wood chisel with exotics and splitting tongues galore.

Staples vs Cleats 10 Jul 2011 15:54 #1618

The 1/2" crown staple puts a great deal of force on the tongue and with species that are easily split will cause the tongue to separate. You have to be more careful with the pressure settings using staples to reduce the splitting hazard.
Brickman Consulting

Staples vs Cleats 11 Jul 2011 14:02 #1620

Tropical species should be installed using cleats only. The commenters noting splitting of tongues is absolutely correct due to pressure. Split tongues cause squeaking until the tongue has completely snapped off. As an importer of South American species, I suggest all of my clients use cleats.

Stewartfloor

Staples vs Cleats 11 Jul 2011 14:50 #1621

I have just started to take out a 20 year old 3/4" solid 5" Oak Floor to be replaced by a new floor more to my wife's liking. It is my intent to reuse the Oak on a project at my farmhouse. I am very pleased to find that the floor that has done so well this past 20 years is coming up without split tongues ............ due I am sure to the original installer using cleats.
Just sharing my experience .............
Stan
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